Maybe Young Nasir was ahead of his time..
Recently someone asked me “What do I know/think about starting a magazine” and I responded in kind with a well thought out reply spilling forth my modest experience in the publishing arena. I realized this is Alumnah material so if you want a semi-insider’s look at publishing, here we go.
First to qualify why I know shit from shine-ola regarding the publishing field, I spent years writing for and eventually co-managing an independent magazine based out of Brooklyn NY. I also freelanced for some of the bigger urban publications, (Source, XXL,Vibe) on medium pieces to small blurbs, and the two things I can say beyond a shadow of a doubt is WRITING is simultaneously the most necessary and most overlooked skill someone can have. In case you want a point of reference… that little writers strike going on that shut down half of television. Yea.. that’s kinda what I’m hinting at. And two, putting out a magazine is a labor of blood, sweat and tears.
First I will go over the rudimentary steps needed to start your magazine if you’re so inclined.
The first thing you need to know is your target audience. That in itself sounds simple enough, but lets break it down further. A Mag like Playboy is obviously catering towards men. A magazine like details caters to men as well. The beauty of running a magazine, as far as advertisers were once concerned, is they can hit a highly specialized demographic with a sense of accuracy. Think.. is it mens music, mens fashion, mens health? There is almost no limit to how specialized you can get. To prove a point there is a magazine that comes out bi-monthly dedicated to those who like to hunt turkeys.
After you got the topic down, now it is time to assemble a team. At the very bare minimum you’d need a capable writer. You can get stock photos or steal high resolution shit off the internet, you can even lay the text and photos out in a simple word document. Want to keep it as low budget as possible, you can even print the shit out on a photo copier at the job after the boss leaves for the day (ex. F.E.D.S. magazine) , but if it isn’t worth reading, it isn’t fit to print.
Not to say that some stuff has gotten past a not so critical eye when it comes to publishing, but I’m speaking in general terms. I’ll go more in depth on the degradation of the art later on.
Now assuming you wish to start a mag, you probably fancy your pen game or camera skills somewhat and think “shit I can do this” and maybe you can, but you’ll need to assemble more than an army of one if you want to make a serious go.
Writers, Editors, Photographers, Art Director, Lay out person, Admin, Distribution, PR, and Editor in Chief.
In my particular experience getting people to jump on board was easy, getting them to stay was hard. On the indy level its more about getting a photo or writers credit rather than a pay check or even pay per word scenario. At most we had 12 staff and at the least we had 2. So all those positions I listed were either helped by me or done by me at some point.
Now lets assume that staff isn’t an issue, Printing a magazine is a very expensive thing to accomplish if you aren’t backed by an investor or good enough with the money that you don’t mind spending thousands upon thousands to see your idea possibly take off one day.
Once the articles, interviews and opinion pieces are written and laid out with either stock or original photography, it’s off to the printing press. Printing stateside is more expensive than printing overseas in countries such as Japan, China etc. Yet both have their pro’s and cons. If you print in Brooklyn and you’re based in Brooklyn, if there is a problem with the color scheme you choose for your cover, you can head down to the office and sit there till something you can mess with is produced. (I’ve done that on numerous occasions, sometimes to the tune of 12 hours and the end result was still not to our specific liking) or you can go overseas and save money, the quality in Japan for instance, based on my experience is much better than anything I’ve ever found stateside. The drawback to that was waiting 3 weeks for a ship to arrive with your magazines. Is the content still relevant? Was it worth the savings in money to lose time?
Not to mention a 10,000 copy run will cost you about 18 grand, depending on the stock or thickness of paper, whether its perfect bound (the mags we’re used to seeing) or saddle stitched (the mags that are bound with staples), depending on the page count etc.
Lets assume staff and money to print and have shit sent air mail is not an issue, so now what? You have 10,000 copies (and 10,000 is a small number compared to what the major publications do, but this is for the purpose of someone who is ideally just starting out) of the latest Lil Wayne cover. If you’d give Lil Wayne a cover of your brand new mag kill yourself now.. I’ll wait.
*gets pop tarts*
Ok.. you have 10k copies of your sure shot can’t miss (insert rapper/actor/celebrity here) cover. What do you do with them. You need distribution. It’s always wise to start locally. If you insist on broadening your reach from jump try to at least stay regionally. The thing is to understand your market, but you also want to have a decent return in news stand sales. The average magazine will sell 20% of the copies at news stands on a good run. The rest get returned to the publisher. Now if your a new or relatively small magazine the distributor will not give you any money up front. Rather you supply the product for, lets say 4 dollars an issue. Lets assume your run was less than stellar @ 10% so you sell 1000 copies, the gross profit is 4g’s they take 2 off of the top, so that leaves you with… yup 2g’s.
While it is important to be visible on newsstands to build buzz, that isn’t where you make your money. That comes from subscriptions, but more from Advertisers.
When I was running around with the day to day business ish, advertisers were paying 10 cents per 100 readers for ads, or at least that is how the formula broke down. So a magazine like Sports Illustrated who at the time had 3 million readers… would get 300k per page ad. You can see a more specific breakdown on their rate card. (I used S.I. as an example based on 1 how well known it is and 2 the ease of mining the data since relevant urban mags guard that shit like govt secrets)
*Image taken from Sports Illustrated’s 2006-2007 Rate Card*
Of course S.I. charges different prices for a black and white ad or a 4 color press ad and they give you different breaks if you get a 2 page spread or ad etc. However working in the examples so far given your magazine only has 10,000 copies per issue, but only 1000 readers resulting in any ad sales to be 100 per page and that is if you can find someone who wants to advertise with you. On your end you should want someone who has an ad that wont compromise the look you have for your magazine. However this stigma works both ways. Big time advertisers wont even place free ads in most cases, in a magazine if they feel it doesn’t fit their standard of excellence.
Ok so all things considered peachy keen.. you got your mags printed real nice and shit, the distributor got you for less than half of the cost, and your selling 20% of an expanded 50k press. Even considering that..
I think it makes a shit load more sense to go online. for MANY reasons
1) overhead.. you can realistically run a website solo and make it look presentable for MUCH LESS than a monthly or even Bi-monthly magazine.
2) web traffic > news stands.. sure it is great to be visible on news stands and it feels more authentic, but the reality is unless your distribution is Hudson (one of the larger distributors) or someone of that caliber, chances are you’ll be seen in midtown, but not uptown, in Brooklyn, but not Queens. The sheer ease of getting the word out about a website, though tedious, if the content is on point is considerably easier and the range for obvious reasons is exponentially better.
3) probably the biggest advantage is the highly specialized data regarding readers. Advertisers love that shit considering they spend a lot of money annually to do market research on their demographic depending upon the product. With a website that data is a click away depending upon what data traffic monitors you have in place.
Now don’t get me wrong the web has its drawbacks. I mean there is Sooo much shit on here who can keep track of whats legitimately good and whats bullshit. (the ratio on that is 99:1) But it wasn’t so much the web killing publishing as publishing killing itself.
Eventually there comes a time when technology equalizes the playing field and people with less talent than money can create product and flood a market with weak shit. We see it happen all the time in music. There was a vast influx of independent magazines that simply lacked the look and feel of a polished publication. Before blogging became popular cheap indy magazines were the place where poor resolution similar photos would pop up coupled with shitty writing and no aim of vision to the mag itself. The writing took a sharp decline, the photography wasn’t original or creative and the content was saturating an already saturated market. Publishing was a victim of itself as far as urban publications go (that is the field I’m most versed in, I never tried to crack into the Turkey Hunters market).
In the end the media reflected the mind state of the music, hustlers stopped rapping and started “writing”. The shit with publishing though, you need to be consistent. Eventually all these pretenders to the throne fell off, by this time though, when new publications of note became available, the net seized the opportunity to take a foot hold. I mean even the big boys get it wrong sometimes as we have seen Scratch Magazine close its doors and opt for a web presence.
So in the end, I feel the internet killed publishing.. Like it will kill TV. Of course this is a very basic breakdown on the mag business with ideal scenarios being in place. You get to mingle with celebs, go to fancy parties and go home extra quiet so as not to wake the landlord because you used the rent money to get the issue out on time, while you feast on ramen noodles.. not even cooked because you didn’t pay the gas bill. I’m just saying with the good comes the bad.
Be on the look out for my adventures in publishing series.
damn BK, great breakdown.
damn BK, great breakdown.
good focking lord. i think i’ll just write my lesson plans and a poem here and there.
good focking lord. i think i’ll just write my lesson plans and a poem here and there.
thanks greeny.. i figured people might be interested since i get asked all the time as is.
thanks greeny.. i figured people might be interested since i get asked all the time as is.
toodles my nigga, Who is going to say I cant say it(c) Fat Joe. You really went in on this piece. I got a new light hearted post up jic, yall are into that shit.
*takes 5 minute break to decipher everything that i just read*
toodles my nigga, Who is going to say I cant say it(c) Fat Joe. You really went in on this piece. I got a new light hearted post up jic, yall are into that shit.
*takes 5 minute break to decipher everything that i just read*
I might be getting ahead of myself but i have that feeling Alumnah is going to blow …….What ya’ll think? But we need somebody dropping that new music here and handling that lane
I might be getting ahead of myself but i have that feeling Alumnah is going to blow …….What ya’ll think? But we need somebody dropping that new music here and handling that lane
I respect this nigga Bkscribe’s opinion, more than a lot of people on the nets
I respect this nigga Bkscribe’s opinion, more than a lot of people on the nets
thanks fuxie i appreciate it. and alumnah is growing slowly.. we gotta keep working at it
thanks fuxie i appreciate it. and alumnah is growing slowly.. we gotta keep working at it
i Fux aka Etheraldinho aka Farouq Obama aka the Immaculate Ejaculate aka Pretty Hue aka Slick Dick Johnson aka That Nigga!
January 17th, 2008 at 2:17 pm 5
I might be getting ahead of myself but i have that feeling Alumnah is going to blow …….What ya’ll think? But we need somebody dropping that new music here and handling that lane
^^^
you need to find you a nerdy, white, snot-nosed college kid whose torrent game is nice and can always get his hands on exclusives (*cough*…nation…*cough*)
i Fux aka Etheraldinho aka Farouq Obama aka the Immaculate Ejaculate aka Pretty Hue aka Slick Dick Johnson aka That Nigga!
January 17th, 2008 at 2:17 pm 5
I might be getting ahead of myself but i have that feeling Alumnah is going to blow …….What ya’ll think? But we need somebody dropping that new music here and handling that lane
^^^
you need to find you a nerdy, white, snot-nosed college kid whose torrent game is nice and can always get his hands on exclusives (*cough*…nation…*cough*)
either that or just post new shit when it pops up on other blogs (2dopeboyz, stuntin on prose)
that’s what most other blogs do (including es sometimes)
either that or just post new shit when it pops up on other blogs (2dopeboyz, stuntin on prose)
that’s what most other blogs do (including es sometimes)
I could just Dl and up shit myself but then I am a busy dude and cant do that ish all day
http://www.zshare.net/audio/6610099689a590/
^^ This Termanology track goes hard
I could just Dl and up shit myself but then I am a busy dude and cant do that ish all day
http://www.zshare.net/audio/6610099689a590/
^^ This Termanology track goes hard
^^ yea you’re right, but that shit makes a lot of blogs lame when there is no individual input
^^ yea you’re right, but that shit makes a lot of blogs lame when there is no individual input
Fux aka Etheraldinho aka Farouq Obama aka the Immaculate Ejaculate aka Pretty Hue aka Slick Dick Johnson aka That Nigga!
January 17th, 2008 at 2:46 pm 10
I could just Dl and up shit myself but then I am a busy dude and cant do that ish all day
^^
also ask yourself why the fuck would you want to
you guys are a commentary blog
i mean out of all of the late breaking Flo Rida ft. Rick Ross or Jim Jones ft. Weezy or any other shit, how much of it gets bumped after the day it drops
ask yourself why would you kill hours upon hours dropping exclusives nobody gives a fuck about when you could provide good commentary that engages people
i fucking hate bol but i have to hand it to him, he has mad readers off of real world summaries lol
that nahgger never dropped an exclusive zshare for as long as i can remember but he just built his shit up by having what other people consider a good voice
Fux aka Etheraldinho aka Farouq Obama aka the Immaculate Ejaculate aka Pretty Hue aka Slick Dick Johnson aka That Nigga!
January 17th, 2008 at 2:46 pm 10
I could just Dl and up shit myself but then I am a busy dude and cant do that ish all day
^^
also ask yourself why the fuck would you want to
you guys are a commentary blog
i mean out of all of the late breaking Flo Rida ft. Rick Ross or Jim Jones ft. Weezy or any other shit, how much of it gets bumped after the day it drops
ask yourself why would you kill hours upon hours dropping exclusives nobody gives a fuck about when you could provide good commentary that engages people
i fucking hate bol but i have to hand it to him, he has mad readers off of real world summaries lol
that nahgger never dropped an exclusive zshare for as long as i can remember but he just built his shit up by having what other people consider a good voice
instead of getting in every lane just get in a couple lanes and go extra hard
basically jump dead off in that ass and blow it up
and never stop eating nuts, they truly help the thinking process
instead of getting in every lane just get in a couple lanes and go extra hard
basically jump dead off in that ass and blow it up
and never stop eating nuts, they truly help the thinking process
…’cause of the protein
I guess Chea , but I meant one of our writers could just post shit on his lane and not the main page, plus i could stop looking around and get most of my ish here. Selfish reasons of course………..
…’cause of the protein
I guess Chea , but I meant one of our writers could just post shit on his lane and not the main page, plus i could stop looking around and get most of my ish here. Selfish reasons of course………..
I know my lane and thats to do me hard and often. Bring as much funny and bitches that I can. thats what I know how to do, I aint trying to be something I not. Word to the Camel trying to be human
I know my lane and thats to do me hard and often. Bring as much funny and bitches that I can. thats what I know how to do, I aint trying to be something I not. Word to the Camel trying to be human
*licks salted nuts then swallows*
Well scribed…To further your point I’d imagine TMZonline and the TMZshow generate more money than say a Star or maybe even National Enquirer and that’s just counting overhead…Maybe?
Word to the Camel trying to be human
^^
dies
btw you need to import all of the posts and comments from your previous blog to this one
those archives have lots of buried treasures
sometimes i would just log on and go deep into the treasure trove and find a fabe dogg story that would have me rolling
you have to let people go deep, that’s what the people want
*licks salted nuts then swallows*
Well scribed…To further your point I’d imagine TMZonline and the TMZshow generate more money than say a Star or maybe even National Enquirer and that’s just counting overhead…Maybe?
Word to the Camel trying to be human
^^
dies
btw you need to import all of the posts and comments from your previous blog to this one
those archives have lots of buried treasures
sometimes i would just log on and go deep into the treasure trove and find a fabe dogg story that would have me rolling
you have to let people go deep, that’s what the people want
Ya Chea I was thinking of doing it here once a week type deal on ifux.alumnah not front page but just “one from the archives” some of the posts on my ish where bonkers, no pat on my back
Ya Chea I was thinking of doing it here once a week type deal on ifux.alumnah not front page but just “one from the archives” some of the posts on my ish where bonkers, no pat on my back
yep, i hit nah for some new daily tracks, listen once and dont even download them. also to see whos in the thread. thats it. i head over here to read good shit from several unique voices.
Brb i need to diddybop around catch a bite and take nice looking shit, Word to Metamucel(sp)
yep, i hit nah for some new daily tracks, listen once and dont even download them. also to see whos in the thread. thats it. i head over here to read good shit from several unique voices.
Brb i need to diddybop around catch a bite and take nice looking shit, Word to Metamucel(sp)
Sean Coonery Says:
January 17th, 2008 at 3:59 pm
Gook = Demeaning term used by U.S. soldiers to describe the inferior Vietnamese and Koreans
Chink = Chinese Guy with Squinting Sleepy Eyes
I use both every now and then…and I have a multitude of Asian friends..
Its all jokes…though….
Racism will always exist….
In the south they call black people Jigga-Boos…you don’t see me crying about it…
Sean Coonery Says:
January 17th, 2008 at 3:59 pm
Gook = Demeaning term used by U.S. soldiers to describe the inferior Vietnamese and Koreans
Chink = Chinese Guy with Squinting Sleepy Eyes
I use both every now and then…and I have a multitude of Asian friends..
Its all jokes…though….
Racism will always exist….
In the south they call black people Jigga-Boos…you don’t see me crying about it…
thanks loco.. n you’re right. shit tmz got the game on smash with that tv show.. but the thing is.. for a venture like that you need a strong brand or strong individual opinions
thanks loco.. n you’re right. shit tmz got the game on smash with that tv show.. but the thing is.. for a venture like that you need a strong brand or strong individual opinions
if you don’t have faith that the writers at alumnah have strong personal opinions then this blog lost already
if you don’t have faith that the writers at alumnah have strong personal opinions then this blog lost already
I might be getting ahead of myself but i have that feeling Alumnah is going to blow …….What ya’ll think? But we need somebody dropping that new music here and handling that lane
^ do we though? i mean alot of other spots do that.. think our exclusives cone from a more cerebral level (sorta)
I might be getting ahead of myself but i have that feeling Alumnah is going to blow …….What ya’ll think? But we need somebody dropping that new music here and handling that lane
^ do we though? i mean alot of other spots do that.. think our exclusives cone from a more cerebral level (sorta)
I had the hardest nigga out, circle yo crib bitch and whatnot. I got frequent flier mileage its nothing. My Opinion is my opinion if you dont like it dont read it(like tons of people). I goes impeccably hard ask around I dont even lubricate thats for the birds. BRB
I had the hardest nigga out, circle yo crib bitch and whatnot. I got frequent flier mileage its nothing. My Opinion is my opinion if you dont like it dont read it(like tons of people). I goes impeccably hard ask around I dont even lubricate thats for the birds. BRB
nah I wasnt taking shots at alumnah.. neva.. jus stating a generalization
dont you know alumnah = future
nah I wasnt taking shots at alumnah.. neva.. jus stating a generalization
dont you know alumnah = future
why would Bk take shots at Alum? he is one of the alum
why would Bk take shots at Alum? he is one of the alum
dont worry greeny.. its a predetermined mechanism to assume that a minority would be self destructive..
dont worry greeny.. its a predetermined mechanism to assume that a minority would be self destructive..
lol at bk and greenie having some deep discussion over my comment — all i’m referring to is the statement that TMZ is winning b/c they have strong personal opinions
and btw i’m a minority too……helloooooooooooo…..unless the majority of america is 1/2 hispanic and 1/2 arab for fucks sake lol
lol at bk and greenie having some deep discussion over my comment — all i’m referring to is the statement that TMZ is winning b/c they have strong personal opinions
and btw i’m a minority too……helloooooooooooo…..unless the majority of america is 1/2 hispanic and 1/2 arab for fucks sake lol
what up chea.. what strong personal opinions do tmz have? arent they just about shoeing celebroities?
what up chea.. what strong personal opinions do tmz have? arent they just about shoeing celebroities?
fuck if i know, bk is the one who said they had strong personal opinions!
lol
this discussion is becoming that whole who’s on first thing that you had to read in grade school
aight anyway if you read back thru this thread (and everything else i’ve posted on alumnah), all i’ve been doing since day 1 is big upping this blog
lol i know ur minority chea.. i was again makin a generalization.. sometimes i find your commentary to be jovial and insightful…
*heads to garden*
*suits up*
*dunks from half court*
*shatters backboard*
fuck if i know, bk is the one who said they had strong personal opinions!
lol
this discussion is becoming that whole who’s on first thing that you had to read in grade school
aight anyway if you read back thru this thread (and everything else i’ve posted on alumnah), all i’ve been doing since day 1 is big upping this blog
lol i know ur minority chea.. i was again makin a generalization.. sometimes i find your commentary to be jovial and insightful…
*heads to garden*
*suits up*
*dunks from half court*
*shatters backboard*
chea– all love. i just peeped the tail end of the convo and chimed in wasnt throwing any shots
chea– all love. i just peeped the tail end of the convo and chimed in wasnt throwing any shots
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greenie January 17th, 2008 at 3:25 pm Edit Comment 37
i just peeped the tail end
^Greeny is known for peeping tail ends
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greenie January 17th, 2008 at 3:25 pm Edit Comment 37
i just peeped the tail end
^Greeny is known for peeping tail ends
all telling my secrets n shit
all telling my secrets n shit
Good post BK.
>>that’s what most other blogs do (including es sometimes)
^stop, I’m standing right here.
I hate secrets their for the devil
Eskay on this bitch wow. That negroe is a lurker on ALumnah
Good post BK.
>>that’s what most other blogs do (including es sometimes)
^stop, I’m standing right here.
I hate secrets their for the devil
Eskay on this bitch wow. That negroe is a lurker on ALumnah
good looks es.. im sure you know what I mean.. publishing is a bitch.
>>good looks es.. im sure you know what I mean.. publishing is a bitch.
sure is.
good looks es.. im sure you know what I mean.. publishing is a bitch.
>>good looks es.. im sure you know what I mean.. publishing is a bitch.
sure is.
lights get low
^^ YO BK what is this song? Link to Youtubery Compadre
lights get low
^^ YO BK what is this song? Link to Youtubery Compadre
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=WARvqqcd9vs
^ shits heat IMO..
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=WARvqqcd9vs
^ shits heat IMO..
ohhhh ya I likes
ohhhh ya I likes
I beg attimes for pussy. ie. Bitch in my ride sort of drunk and reluctant
i Say “just let me put the tip in to marinate then I will masterbate”
she says “what the fuck”
i say “just the tip girl promise”
She says “just the tip right”
I say “yes I just need your juice on it”
she says “ok”
WALA!
I beg attimes for pussy. ie. Bitch in my ride sort of drunk and reluctant
i Say “just let me put the tip in to marinate then I will masterbate”
she says “what the fuck”
i say “just the tip girl promise”
She says “just the tip right”
I say “yes I just need your juice on it”
she says “ok”
WALA!
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=13NXFjouchI
^^ I LOVE PUN but this hook was the most suspect shit I ever heard in my life
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=13NXFjouchI
^^ I LOVE PUN but this hook was the most suspect shit I ever heard in my life
Good post BK. The web is a monster and it will eventually kill everything. Magazine publishing “was” an important part of our culture. While broadband internet service signaled the end of that industry I think it died much quicker that it would have, mainly because of the dinosaurs who run the industry and are afraid of change (also the case with the music business and on a smaller but growing extent, the movie business) This is a new world, being run with an old world business model.
Magazine publishers killed them selves by not embracing the web and being among the first to provide content for it (they already had access to talented writers, photog, etc.) The same way the Hollywood honchos are shooting themselves in the foot by not negotiating with the people who create the products they make billions off of.
The thing is, these heads of industry (publishing, music, movies) no long control the vehicle of delivery. Fact is because of the internet streaming at high speed in a lot more homes an artist no longer needs a record label and writers don’t need magazines and movie studios as much as those industries need them.
Again, good post.
Good post BK. The web is a monster and it will eventually kill everything. Magazine publishing “was” an important part of our culture. While broadband internet service signaled the end of that industry I think it died much quicker that it would have, mainly because of the dinosaurs who run the industry and are afraid of change (also the case with the music business and on a smaller but growing extent, the movie business) This is a new world, being run with an old world business model.
Magazine publishers killed them selves by not embracing the web and being among the first to provide content for it (they already had access to talented writers, photog, etc.) The same way the Hollywood honchos are shooting themselves in the foot by not negotiating with the people who create the products they make billions off of.
The thing is, these heads of industry (publishing, music, movies) no long control the vehicle of delivery. Fact is because of the internet streaming at high speed in a lot more homes an artist no longer needs a record label and writers don’t need magazines and movie studios as much as those industries need them.
Again, good post.
I beg attimes for pussy. ie. Bitch in my ride sort of drunk and reluctant
i Say “just let me put the tip in to marinate then I will masterbateâ€
she says “what the fuckâ€
i say “just the tip girl promiseâ€
She says “just the tip rightâ€
I say “yes I just need your juice on itâ€
she says “okâ€
WALA!
^ SMH @ the silly hos.
I beg attimes for pussy. ie. Bitch in my ride sort of drunk and reluctant
i Say “just let me put the tip in to marinate then I will masterbateâ€
she says “what the fuckâ€
i say “just the tip girl promiseâ€
She says “just the tip rightâ€
I say “yes I just need your juice on itâ€
she says “okâ€
WALA!
^ SMH @ the silly hos.
Damn Says… i couldn’t have said it better myself.
Damn Says… i couldn’t have said it better myself.
eskay
January 17th, 2008 at 3:45 pm 40
Good post BK.
>>that’s what most other blogs do (including es sometimes)
^stop, I’m standing right here.
^^^^
that wasn’t a diss, G
don’t pretend like you don’t be posting shit that you heard off of youheardthatnew and other sites
i mean let’s be clear — you give credit where it’s due — i’m just saying
eskay
January 17th, 2008 at 3:45 pm 40
Good post BK.
>>that’s what most other blogs do (including es sometimes)
^stop, I’m standing right here.
^^^^
that wasn’t a diss, G
don’t pretend like you don’t be posting shit that you heard off of youheardthatnew and other sites
i mean let’s be clear — you give credit where it’s due — i’m just saying
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Qs6u3at4jTw
^^ OHHH SHIT THIS IS BONKERS TIGHT PANT MUSIC VIDEO
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Qs6u3at4jTw
^^ OHHH SHIT THIS IS BONKERS TIGHT PANT MUSIC VIDEO
^WTF
^WTF
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Sw01j5E_yos&feature=related
^^ This is how you do tight pants. WOWSERS
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Sw01j5E_yos&feature=related
^^ This is how you do tight pants. WOWSERS
lol at fux
he ate his lunch, he took a “wonderfully full dump” (c) fux after drinking pomegranite juice
and now he’s back, wilin’ out
this cat is the energizer bunny [\] of posting
lol at fux
he ate his lunch, he took a “wonderfully full dump” (c) fux after drinking pomegranite juice
and now he’s back, wilin’ out
this cat is the energizer bunny [\\\] of posting
Yo Chea I am conflicted today, Cuz i am supposed to go share a few drinks with this ‘Chick’ tonight not my girl. I like my girl and I think I am falling for her but damn. I stay losing attimes even when I am winning
Yo Chea I am conflicted today, Cuz i am supposed to go share a few drinks with this ‘Chick’ tonight not my girl. I like my girl and I think I am falling for her but damn. I stay losing attimes even when I am winning
LOL at “falling for her”
are you a n*gga or a b*tch
LOL at “falling for her”
are you a n*gga or a b*tch
It takes 3 muscles to smile and 32 to frown
@ chea
We do what we like to do and then we out
But lately I’ve been havin the strangest feelings
Your boy Young Hov’ catchin feelings
and it’s messin up my dealings cause mami’s not willin
……………………………………………………
Said, “We was just ‘sposed to hook up and have a glass”
She called me her emergency dick-in-the-glass
Hehehe.. I had to laugh for a second
Had to check myself, get my mackin back in perspective
I slack for a second but I’m back, no question
Like I walk with a cane, ain’t no half-steppin!
Yo by Fall I mean I am starting to like her on a different level I am not accumstomed too
It takes 3 muscles to smile and 32 to frown
@ chea
We do what we like to do and then we out
But lately I’ve been havin the strangest feelings
Your boy Young Hov’ catchin feelings
and it’s messin up my dealings cause mami’s not willin
……………………………………………………
Said, “We was just ‘sposed to hook up and have a glass”
She called me her emergency dick-in-the-glass
Hehehe.. I had to laugh for a second
Had to check myself, get my mackin back in perspective
I slack for a second but I’m back, no question
Like I walk with a cane, ain’t no half-steppin!
Yo by Fall I mean I am starting to like her on a different level I am not accumstomed too
“Yo by Fall I mean I am starting to like her on a different level I am not accumstomed too”
i think some troll took over iFux’s computer
i’m bout to fly to san diego and kick this troll’s ass
because my brother fux never used to love these ho’s and now he done turnt into a fucking romeo
i’m going to start calling you romeo homie
tony romeo
“Yo by Fall I mean I am starting to like her on a different level I am not accumstomed too”
i think some troll took over iFux’s computer
i’m bout to fly to san diego and kick this troll’s ass
because my brother fux never used to love these ho’s and now he done turnt into a fucking romeo
i’m going to start calling you romeo homie
tony romeo
yo real spit i was talking to this girl the other day and she had the most lovely eyelashes
i felt like she could be the woman i always wanted in life
yo real spit i was talking to this girl the other day and she had the most lovely eyelashes
i felt like she could be the woman i always wanted in life
i mean i think we connected on a spiritual plane
man up fux!! pimp down!!!!
i mean i think we connected on a spiritual plane
man up fux!! pimp down!!!!
like our spirits connected
like all my worries fell away the second our eyes met and it was like the two of us floating in a plain of total bliss and companionship
i never wanted to leave that place
you cant pimp forever
*Slaps self*
what am i saying pimp o die
like our spirits connected
like all my worries fell away the second our eyes met and it was like the two of us floating in a plain of total bliss and companionship
i never wanted to leave that place
you cant pimp forever
*Slaps self*
what am i saying pimp o die
you MUST pimp forever! if you HAVE TO.. find a fellow pimp, consolidate your pimpness and pimp together.. but you MUST ALWAYS PIMP
you MUST pimp forever! if you HAVE TO.. find a fellow pimp, consolidate your pimpness and pimp together.. but you MUST ALWAYS PIMP
BKScribe, is that all there is to life?
are you telling me that pounding a total stranger who you just met whose skirt was hiked up two inches higher than it should be and who was wearing torn fishnet stockings with clear, 8-inch heels and who had no problem bringing her friend along in the backseat of your car surpasses the sheer joy of holding hands with the woman of your dreams and taking a walk on a beach, fully-clothed, enjoying one another’s embrace forever more?
BKScribe, is that all there is to life?
are you telling me that pounding a total stranger who you just met whose skirt was hiked up two inches higher than it should be and who was wearing torn fishnet stockings with clear, 8-inch heels and who had no problem bringing her friend along in the backseat of your car surpasses the sheer joy of holding hands with the woman of your dreams and taking a walk on a beach, fully-clothed, enjoying one another’s embrace forever more?
LOL @ ^.. damn thas some eloquent shit.. and trust me im too lazy to pimp..
besides… it aint a game out there..
Its like a crap shoot (c) eddie murphy
Yo first and foremost to my recollection I never said she was a hoe. Secondly I am fickle tomorrow she might say or do something and I done with her. But last night we were watching American Idol together and we had a blast talking shit and what not. I felt something different and then we made love for an hour or so. Terrific feelings I had.
LOL @ ^.. damn thas some eloquent shit.. and trust me im too lazy to pimp..
besides… it aint a game out there..
Its like a crap shoot (c) eddie murphy
Yo first and foremost to my recollection I never said she was a hoe. Secondly I am fickle tomorrow she might say or do something and I done with her. But last night we were watching American Idol together and we had a blast talking shit and what not. I felt something different and then we made love for an hour or so. Terrific feelings I had.
damn Alumnah was out for the count…….Too Much Comment swagger
damn Alumnah was out for the count…….Too Much Comment swagger
LOL yea man.. someone fuckin with the matrix.. but they call me young neo
LOL yea man.. someone fuckin with the matrix.. but they call me young neo
its never that fun if you are fully clothed
btw the latter comment I made about terrific feelings was so fucking gay I cant believe I typed it
its never that fun if you are fully clothed
btw the latter comment I made about terrific feelings was so fucking gay I cant believe I typed it
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8i-2ZGAujqM&NR=1
^^ OHHHHHHHHH THE ARTISTRY
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8i-2ZGAujqM&NR=1
^^ OHHHHHHHHH THE ARTISTRY
i Fux aka Etheraldinho aka Farouq Obama aka the Immaculate Ejaculate aka Pretty Hue aka Slick Dick Johnson aka Jaguar Woods aka Bigs Cocksure
January 17th, 2008 at 4:44 pm 71
Yo first and foremost to my recollection I never said she was a hoe. Secondly I am fickle tomorrow she might say or do something and I done with her. But last night we were watching American Idol together and we had a blast talking shit and what not. I felt something different and then we made love for an hour or so. Terrific feelings I had.
^^
i applaud your honesty and wish you the greatest success in your romance with her
fux, i encourage you reach deep into the annals of your heart and to explore your feelings for this woman – she very well could be your bride to be
i Fux aka Etheraldinho aka Farouq Obama aka the Immaculate Ejaculate aka Pretty Hue aka Slick Dick Johnson aka Jaguar Woods aka Bigs Cocksure
January 17th, 2008 at 4:44 pm 71
Yo first and foremost to my recollection I never said she was a hoe. Secondly I am fickle tomorrow she might say or do something and I done with her. But last night we were watching American Idol together and we had a blast talking shit and what not. I felt something different and then we made love for an hour or so. Terrific feelings I had.
^^
i applaud your honesty and wish you the greatest success in your romance with her
fux, i encourage you reach deep into the annals of your heart and to explore your feelings for this woman – she very well could be your bride to be
the nals of your heart? thats just sick
by the way i was strolling through the sears tower starbucks this morn and i happened upon a lovely young lass whose scent tickled my fancy in a way that i have never quite felt before – fux, in your opinion, was it true love? should i invite her to watch idol with me?
the nals of your heart? thats just sick
by the way i was strolling through the sears tower starbucks this morn and i happened upon a lovely young lass whose scent tickled my fancy in a way that i have never quite felt before – fux, in your opinion, was it true love? should i invite her to watch idol with me?
greenie, open you heart to true love
greenie, open you heart to true love
who the FUCK is this tony romeo fragglot?
who the FUCK is this tony romeo fragglot?
barney, your harsh words are evidence of a heart that has been broken
your sexual escapades have reaped you naught but hurt
open your heart, my brother
your brother fux has opened his heart – why not you?
barney, your harsh words are evidence of a heart that has been broken
your sexual escapades have reaped you naught but hurt
open your heart, my brother
your brother fux has opened his heart – why not you?
alright enuf fuckery for one day
real talk fux i was just kidding
as you can see a ninger been married for years and got a son and a house and errything, so obviously i felt like that at one time for my chick but i think i just forgot that special feeling (but for the record i love her to death i juss dig skrippers and other assorted nasty women too)
do you, holmes, honestly if she’s the one then pull the trigger
and i never implied she was a hoe – when i said you never used to love these ho’s i meant that colloquially, not specifically with respect to the leaker – if you say she’s a good woman then obviously i co-sig that 1,000%
holla back foo’s,
till tomorrow,
i’m out,
one
alright enuf fuckery for one day
real talk fux i was just kidding
as you can see a ninger been married for years and got a son and a house and errything, so obviously i felt like that at one time for my chick but i think i just forgot that special feeling (but for the record i love her to death i juss dig skrippers and other assorted nasty women too)
do you, holmes, honestly if she’s the one then pull the trigger
and i never implied she was a hoe – when i said you never used to love these ho’s i meant that colloquially, not specifically with respect to the leaker – if you say she’s a good woman then obviously i co-sig that 1,000%
holla back foo’s,
till tomorrow,
i’m out,
one
Dapz homie
Dapz homie
daps Chea ……..Marriage is a ship I need to catch a little later in my life……..Word Homie I will catch you next week probably, tomorrow equates to having a day for the young’n and I
daps Chea ……..Marriage is a ship I need to catch a little later in my life……..Word Homie I will catch you next week probably, tomorrow equates to having a day for the young’n and I
thas wassup fux..
thas wassup fux..
Nastradamus seen it like zenith
Nastradamus seen it like zenith
BK ya schooled me.
Good shit.
BK ya schooled me.
Good shit.